You know the logic puzzle Cluedo Suspects, with the 12 plastic characters you have to put in the correct place in the little house?
I love that kind of puzzle and have been doing them for many years now.
Unfortunately my version is problematic. The translation of the cards is off. Very off. In fact 7 of the cards cannot be solved because of a missing clue or faulty phrasing. In two cases I've managed to find out what the missing information was, but there are still 5 left unsolvable.
Could someone here be kind enough to post the English clues on cards 12, 42, 56, 57 and 60?
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I can translate them back, would be easier. This far I've cut the amount of troublesome cards to 2: in both cases there are at least 2 possible murderers.
12:
1: The body was found in the lounge
2: The following people were in the house when the murder was committed: Prof. Plum, Lady Lavender, Reverend Green, Ms Scarlett, Colonel Mustard, Mrs White, Lord Gray, Mrs Peacock, Prince Azure.
3: The Ballroom was empty
4: Prince Azure and Ms Scarlett were talking in the Conservatory
5: Mrs Peacock was on the same floor as Lord Gray but in a room further to the west
6: Lady Lavender was not in the same room as Lord Gray.
7: Prof. Plum was not in the same room as Mrs White
8: Mrs Peacock was not in the same room as Countess Lavender
9: Colonel Mustard and Rev Green were on the same floor.
10: The murderer was a woman.
57:
1: The body was in the Wine Cellar and all eleven suspects were in the house.
2: Prince Azure was not in the Billiard Room, the Study or the Rose Garden.
3: Rev Green and Ross were each on one side of the house.
4: Professor Plum was not in the Rose Garden, the Hall or the Study
5: There were two women in the Bedroom and two downstairs.
6: Mrs Meadow-Brook was in the Billiard Room
7: Prince Azure was in the room above or below the room with Col. Mustard.
8: Ms Scarlett was on the same floor as Prs Peacock, but in a different room.
12:
1: The body was found in the lounge
2: The following people were in the house when the murder was committed: Prof. Plum, Lady Lavender, Reverend Green, Ms Scarlett, Colonel Mustard, Mrs White, Lord Gray, Mrs Peacock, Prince Azure.
3: The Ballroom was empty
4: Prince Azure and Ms Scarlett were talking in the Conservatory
5: Mrs Peacock was on the same floor as Lord Gray but in a room further to the west
6: Lady Lavender was not in the same room as Lord Gray.
7: Prof. Plum was not in the same room as Mrs White
8: Mrs Peacock was not in the same room as Countess Lavender
9: Colonel Mustard and Rev Green were on the same floor.
10: The murderer was a woman.
57:
1: The body was in the Wine Cellar and all eleven suspects were in the house.
2: Prince Azure was not in the Billiard Room, the Study or the Rose Garden.
3: Rev Green and Ross were each on one side of the house.
4: Professor Plum was not in the Rose Garden, the Hall or the Study
5: There were two women in the Bedroom and two downstairs.
6: Mrs Meadow-Brook was in the Billiard Room
7: Prince Azure was in the room above or below the room with Col. Mustard.
8: Ms Scarlett was on the same floor as Prs Peacock, but in a different room.
Last edited by BBP on Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
The answer is not the problem: after all, that's on the back of my cards too.
The problem is the puzzle itself is unsolvable; both have at least 2 possible murderers. Since translation and phrase construction on all cards is off, I assumed something got lost in translation. Which is why I wanted to know the original texts.
The problem is the puzzle itself is unsolvable; both have at least 2 possible murderers. Since translation and phrase construction on all cards is off, I assumed something got lost in translation. Which is why I wanted to know the original texts.
So by now 12 goes on the pile "you see BB, your brain was elsewhere at the exact times you tried to solve this card" and 57 goes on the pile "unsolvable because the translator forgot something". On 57 somebody forgot to mention the gardener and Mr Green are not just on opposing ends of the building, but on different floors too. Also the card knows where both characters should end up, maybe they left out a clue.
Anyway my search for the original version of the cards ends here. Thanks for your help!
Anyway my search for the original version of the cards ends here. Thanks for your help!
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(12)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the LOUNGE
2. The only people in the mansion at the time were PROFESSOR PLUM, LADY LAVENDER, MR. GREEN, MISS SCARLET, COLONEL MUSTARD, MRS. WHITE, THE BUTLER, MRS. PEACOCK and PRINCE AZURE
3. The BALLROOM was empty at the time
4. PRINCE AZURE and MISS SCARLET were chatting in the CONSERVATORY.
5. MRS. PEACOCK was on the same floor as THE BUTLER but in a room further west.
6. LADY LAVENDER was not in the same room as THE BUTLER.
7. PROFESSOR PLUM was not in the same room as MRS. WHITE
8. MRS. PEACOCK was not in the same room as LADY LAVENDER
9. COLONEL MUSTARD and MR. GREEN were on the same floor.
10. Evidence proves that the murderer was a woman!
(42)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the DRESSING ROOM.
2. The only people in the mansion at the time were PROFESSOR PLUM, LADY LAVENDER, MR. GREEN, MISS SCARLET, COLONEL MUSTARD, MRS. WHITE, THE BUTLER, MRS. PEACOCK and PRINCE AZURE.
3. MRS. PEACOCK was alone at the time of the murder.
4. THE BUTLER was alone at the time of the murder.
5. MRS. WHITE and MISS SCARLET were choosing a bottle in the WINE CELLAR
6. MR. GREEN was not in the west wing.
7. COLONEL MUSTARD was not in the DRESSING ROOM or the ROSE GARDEN.
8. THE BUTLER was in the room below the room MRS. PEACOCK was in and next to the room LADY LAVENDER was in.
9. PROFESSOR PLUM was on a different floor than COLONEL MUSTARD
(56)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the STUDY and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. THE BUTLER was under the room MRS. PEACOCK was in and in the room next to the room RUSTY was in.
3. MISS SCARLET was under the room LADY LAVENDER was in and in the room next to the room PROFESSOR PLUM was in.
4. MR. GREEN was with a woman in the ROSE GARDEN
5. MRS. WHITE and COLONEL MUSTARD were at opposite ends of the mansion and on different floors.
6. PRINCE AZURE was not in the room next to the room MRS. PEACOCK was in.
7. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was upstairs.
(57)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the WINE CELLAR and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. PRINCE AZURE was not in the BILLIARD ROOM, the STUDY or the ROSE GARDEN.
3. MR. GREEN and RUSTY were at opposite ends of the mansion
4. PROFESSOR PLUM was not int he ROSE GARDEN, the HALL, or the STUDY
5. There were two women in the DRESSING ROOM and two women were downstairs.
6. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was in the BILLIARD ROOM.
7. PRINCE AZURE was in the room either above or below the room COLONEL MUSTARD was in.
8. MISS SCARLEET was on the same floor as MRS. PEACOCK but in another room.
(60)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the WINE CELLAR and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. MRS. WHITE was in the next room west of the room PRINCE AZURE was in.
3. MR. GREEN was on the same floor as RUSTY but in a room further east.
4. PRINCE AZURE was not in the room next to the room COLONEL MUSTARD was in.
5. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was not in a room next to the room LADY LAVENDER was in, but they were on the same floor.
6. MISS SCARLET was not in the same room as COLONEL MUSTARD.
7. RUSTY was not in the same room as PROFESSOR PLUM.
8. PROFESSOR PLUM was not on the same floor as PRINCE AZURE
9. MISS SCARLET was in the next room west of the room MRS. PEACOCK was in.
10. MRS. PEACOCK and THE BUTLER were in the same room.
11. COLONEL MUSTARD was on the same floor as MRS. MEADOW-BROOK but in a room further west.
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the LOUNGE
2. The only people in the mansion at the time were PROFESSOR PLUM, LADY LAVENDER, MR. GREEN, MISS SCARLET, COLONEL MUSTARD, MRS. WHITE, THE BUTLER, MRS. PEACOCK and PRINCE AZURE
3. The BALLROOM was empty at the time
4. PRINCE AZURE and MISS SCARLET were chatting in the CONSERVATORY.
5. MRS. PEACOCK was on the same floor as THE BUTLER but in a room further west.
6. LADY LAVENDER was not in the same room as THE BUTLER.
7. PROFESSOR PLUM was not in the same room as MRS. WHITE
8. MRS. PEACOCK was not in the same room as LADY LAVENDER
9. COLONEL MUSTARD and MR. GREEN were on the same floor.
10. Evidence proves that the murderer was a woman!
(42)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the DRESSING ROOM.
2. The only people in the mansion at the time were PROFESSOR PLUM, LADY LAVENDER, MR. GREEN, MISS SCARLET, COLONEL MUSTARD, MRS. WHITE, THE BUTLER, MRS. PEACOCK and PRINCE AZURE.
3. MRS. PEACOCK was alone at the time of the murder.
4. THE BUTLER was alone at the time of the murder.
5. MRS. WHITE and MISS SCARLET were choosing a bottle in the WINE CELLAR
6. MR. GREEN was not in the west wing.
7. COLONEL MUSTARD was not in the DRESSING ROOM or the ROSE GARDEN.
8. THE BUTLER was in the room below the room MRS. PEACOCK was in and next to the room LADY LAVENDER was in.
9. PROFESSOR PLUM was on a different floor than COLONEL MUSTARD
(56)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the STUDY and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. THE BUTLER was under the room MRS. PEACOCK was in and in the room next to the room RUSTY was in.
3. MISS SCARLET was under the room LADY LAVENDER was in and in the room next to the room PROFESSOR PLUM was in.
4. MR. GREEN was with a woman in the ROSE GARDEN
5. MRS. WHITE and COLONEL MUSTARD were at opposite ends of the mansion and on different floors.
6. PRINCE AZURE was not in the room next to the room MRS. PEACOCK was in.
7. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was upstairs.
(57)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the WINE CELLAR and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. PRINCE AZURE was not in the BILLIARD ROOM, the STUDY or the ROSE GARDEN.
3. MR. GREEN and RUSTY were at opposite ends of the mansion
4. PROFESSOR PLUM was not int he ROSE GARDEN, the HALL, or the STUDY
5. There were two women in the DRESSING ROOM and two women were downstairs.
6. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was in the BILLIARD ROOM.
7. PRINCE AZURE was in the room either above or below the room COLONEL MUSTARD was in.
8. MISS SCARLEET was on the same floor as MRS. PEACOCK but in another room.
(60)
1. The DEAD BODY was found in the WINE CELLAR and all eleven suspects were in the mansion at the time of the murder.
2. MRS. WHITE was in the next room west of the room PRINCE AZURE was in.
3. MR. GREEN was on the same floor as RUSTY but in a room further east.
4. PRINCE AZURE was not in the room next to the room COLONEL MUSTARD was in.
5. MRS. MEADOW-BROOK was not in a room next to the room LADY LAVENDER was in, but they were on the same floor.
6. MISS SCARLET was not in the same room as COLONEL MUSTARD.
7. RUSTY was not in the same room as PROFESSOR PLUM.
8. PROFESSOR PLUM was not on the same floor as PRINCE AZURE
9. MISS SCARLET was in the next room west of the room MRS. PEACOCK was in.
10. MRS. PEACOCK and THE BUTLER were in the same room.
11. COLONEL MUSTARD was on the same floor as MRS. MEADOW-BROOK but in a room further west.
Thank you very much for the original verions! Looks like the translation isn't responsible for the flaws: they're in the cards already!
You're right about 12, Green and Mustard are interchangeable. The problem with that card is, it says Green and Mustard are on the same floor. That could also mean they are in the same room, the dining room on the top floor. That would mean Lady Lavender did it.
Your 57 solution is flawed. (checks her translation)
OK sorry, my translation is flawed. There are 2 women in the BEDROOM, not in the rose garden. Sorry. Mea culpa.
You're right about 12, Green and Mustard are interchangeable. The problem with that card is, it says Green and Mustard are on the same floor. That could also mean they are in the same room, the dining room on the top floor. That would mean Lady Lavender did it.
Your 57 solution is flawed. (checks her translation)
OK sorry, my translation is flawed. There are 2 women in the BEDROOM, not in the rose garden. Sorry. Mea culpa.