Inspector Brown was in the 2002 Clue game!? I never knew that. I'll have to go back and re-read the materials with that game.Sir Shamrock wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:06 pmTo be fair, technology speaking Brown has been in more games than Ashe (FX, DVD, Mysteries, Express, Cluedo Party, and Clue 2002), but I can understand where you're coming from. I'm just saying that if they need to fill a quota for an new update and they need more characters in a pinch, then Ashe and Brown would work just fine. There are other characters to use, but not as well known as them. They now have Sherlock and Watson as a possible murderers so what stopping them from adding the non-playable people.Murder by Death wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:15 amMy bigger problem is with including the non-playing characters in general. Ashe I was aware of from discussions on this board, but Inspector Brown exists only in the rarer expansion games as a non-playing character. Granted they both have a physical depictions, but I’ve never actually played those games, nor do I own them. I get the nostalgia factor for those who have, and do. At least Inspector Brown has the international factor working in his favor with the benefit of an expanded audience. Though I rather get the impression fans of the game would rather have Lady Lavender over Brown, or even Ashe. And since we’re talking colors, I’d say the introduction of two new greens and another brown suggests Lavender is not going to be a problem with Orchid and Rose — so I rescind my previous prediction that there would be no Lavender.
Frankly, if they add new characters, I’d rather see them introduce new original characters to fill out the demographic, as well as the color spectrum, rather than add existing white male non-playing characters. And yes they can change the race and gender of any existing characters, but that’s not really the same, which is why we have Orchid now.
Either way, watching Marmalade expand the Cluedo universe is perhaps even more interesting to follow than the actual games themselves...
Now I'm not sure adding completely new original people is the way to go though. There wouldn't be any nostalgia for the new players to by them and there might be a similar reaction to the new characters from the Clue Comics from last year. If they wanted to fill out some demographics by adding new characters, then they dan use the original patented characters. Theres no description for them so they can do whatever they want, and the eagle eyed Clue fans would be real eager to get a part of it. But in the end it's their game, so they'll do whatever they need. Who knows, maybe they'll have Matlock and Jessica Fletcher as the next people.
I hope you're right about Lavender though, that would be awesome
The thing about Sherlock and Watson compared to the relatively obscure Ashe and Brown, is that they're "Sherlock" and "Watson" -- and SHERLOCK is currently a hit International show with its own Cluedo game. So if the idea they're looking to introduce new characters is coming from that, I think it's not a concern. Rusty was added by fan demand, I expect, and makes a ton of sense being a beloved playable character that was notably omitted from the 2000-era games when Azure was introduced. The same with Meadow-Brooke and Lavender. And I get why some fans would be into seeing Ashe and Brown, but I just don't see fan passions for them in the same way. The Patent names are a decent way to go for original characters tied to legacy, but I think the only unclaimed ones are Gold and Silver. I'd exclude Colonel Yellow, since there's already a Colonel, and Yellow isn't really a very good surname. But I think Marmalade has a lot more creativity than some of the executives at Hasbro that came up with some of those names which are part of Canon. God help us if we ever get Mr. De'ath.
As for Matlock and Fletcher -- I'd love to see Marmalade go that route. The problem there is that those are copyrighted characters that would have to be licensed from their IP owners, and that adds substantially to the cost, which is why those themed USA-opoly games are $40 instead of $20. Sherlock is PD and costs them nothing. I would expect to see other PD literary characters next. Maybe from Shakespeare, or Mark Twain, or other internationally recognized characters which are in the PD.
As far as nostalgia goes, I would love a 1970s-themed game using the the models and artwork from the 1972 game, re-imagined for their layout.