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Post by cluedoking123 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:01 am

shirtwoot just released a new clue shirt, but it'll be gone at the end of today so you better order it now!

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Post by Murder by Death » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:27 am

Why did they do the characters in that order?

It's neither the traditional starting order, nor the traditional color spectrum order: VIBGYOR

It's not alpha, boy/girl, nor does it make for a clever acronym.

Odd ...

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Post by Black » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:49 pm

I don't see the point of the &s at the end of every name.

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Post by chaostheory1489 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:27 pm

It's a reference to a Beatles shirt; you can read more about it at http://www.jetset.nl/archive/john-paul- ... eorge.html , including why the ampersands are there.

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Post by Murder by Death » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:45 pm

chaostheory1489 wrote:It's a reference to a Beatles shirt; you can read more about it at http://www.jetset.nl/archive/john-paul- ... eorge.html , including why the ampersands are there.
Clever. But, that doesn't really explain the order. The other shirts were monotone. In Clue there is not only an order, but a color scheme. Arguably, by virtue of going first and second all those years, Scarlett and Mustard should be on top, in much the same way as John&Paul are, or Keith&Mick. Putting Plum and White first is just confusing, since they not only go later in the game, but are not next to each other either. I totally get the ergonomics of rendering the names in an aesthetically pleasing manner, but you can't just slap the names on the shirt in any old order ... No more than you would put John&Paul at the bottom of the list after George&Ringo.

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Post by Black » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:17 am

Maybe there isn't meant to be an order. Look at the Swedish Cluedo series, the suspects come onto the stage in a different order.

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Post by Murder by Death » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:41 am

Really? Swedish version? Not really the bastion of Cluedo tradition ...

My opinion all depends on whether you are a traditionalist or not.

Unless you are a reinventionist and subscribe to the roll the dice to see who goes first method, the only other games where starting order and color does not matter are the advanced games in which all the players start in one location like Master Detective, and Super Sleuth, and Super Cluedo. Otherwise, all the classic traditional games set the starting order. The only exception to this is the brand new TCMG which is too new to even be widely known.

So my guess is that the t-shirt design is based on Discover The Secrets where the character order no longer matters. However, since Scarlet is prominently shown on the reinvention box cover, somebody has missed the 63 year-old memo even DTS acknowledged -- Scarlet ALWAYS goes first ...

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Post by Black » Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:59 am

It might be something simple. The makers favourite suspects from least to most or vice virsa.

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Post by Murder by Death » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:47 am

And picking ones favorites is fine. But doesn't make much sense for a shirt sold to a general audience if it doesn't follow Cluedo traditions. Plum is not everyone's most or least favorite.

Even the movie paid attention to the board game traditions ... The characters, driving appropriately colored cars, arrived at the house in starting order excpet for Scarlet who would have arrived first had her car not broken down. Instead she arrived last, emphasized by introducing her to the other guests last, rather than first as dictated by etiquette (as well as emphasizing her importance as a character). In other words, all the guests were introduced in their starting order, before introducing Miss Scarlet, thus preserving the board rotation order (Scarlet is next following Plum if you skip her and Start with Mustard). This kind of detail is the hallmark of a good fan-oriented product, not personal preference.

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